within this kiss is
everything I could never tell you
I draw this while searching for some info, forums, or debate threads about CloudxAerith (clerith) VS CloudxTifa (cloti).
Heck, wi** even wrote down the arguments about which one is Cloud's true love and some reasons "why people should support clerith/cloti"
In my opinion, why do people keep debating about things which won't be settled? (Remember the age of FF7,
and how Nomura stated that he won't end this "mystery"?) Sometimes it irritated me to see stubborn person who support Tifa and saying bad things about Aerith. Or some person who gave out statement with unreasonable proofs but dumbly insisted that it has to be so.
Seriously, can't you Cloti or Clerith fans just keep supporting them without having to say bad things about the other?
I can call myself a clerith fan but I don't dislike Tifa. I prefer Aerith much more than her, but that doesn't mean I hate Tifa like she is the f*cking b*tch in the world.
As for me, I'm pretty fine with the thoughts that Aerith was romantically involved with Zack. But Zack was dead, and Aerith met Cloud and "seeing him in Cloud". Cloud got fond with her and Aerith died. Zack and Aerith reconciled in the Promised Land, but Cloud was distancing himself with Tifa and the others because of fear of losing them too. With Tifa supporting him, and Aerith meeting him and saying that she never blamed him, Cloud finally able to live on out of his fear. It's ZackxAerith --> AerithxCloud --> ZackxAerith and TifaxCloud
And if you said that it has to be Clerith or Cloti just because of Cloud had a moment which only with her he shared, then I think they all have. Through Crisis Core, we can see how Cloud and Aerith is connected through Zack, as they are the only ones who are closest to him. In the OVA (somewhere also in Crisis Core), Tifa is the only one who knows Cloud since childhood, and she is the survivor of Sephiroth's attack. Cloud searched for Aerith and her forgiveness. Tifa kept supporting him no matter what happen as a 'family'. See the point?
I'd never think about how Cloud's and Aerith's love will work out since I am into a love where the man is on the aggressive side, while for Cloud and Aerith, it seems that Aerith is the dominant one with Cloud blushing easily when he's with her. It feels more like a puppy and his master than an equal relationship. LOL.
Maybe I just love how Cloud got "attached" to her to the point of meeting her inside his mind (watch Advent Children! I did, about 4 times XD) And about Tifa, I can't think of how their loves will turn out too.
To me, they are just like a really close siblings, like a family, like a soulmate but not star-crossed-lover.
Ahh... what a long rambling. Forget this, I just want to express my opinion somewhere, after seeing that debates everywhere...
I am still peeved by the fact, Square Enix keeps referring Cloud and Tifa as Childhood friends, when they barely knew each other growing up. They are acquaintances than anything else, later they become friends. Cloud was Tifa's stalker, the fan boys who were Tifa's circle of friends bullied Cloud. Tifa knew about this and she didn't even tried to help Cloud, so she bullied him too by just letting it happen. The well scene was a bunch of BS. Tifa made cloud promise to come back to her when he became a hero. Years later she fell in love with him only because he was this super cool soldier, and not the cloud underneath. This is why Aeris is the perfect match for him!
EVIL quote from Maiden who travels the planet:
"Cloud was falling into the Lifestream.
He wasn’t falling into it as the dead or as a soul. He was falling into the Sea of Mako alive, in his living body. He was going to pass out.
In the Northern Crater, he found out that his memories were false. He was just a doll who the mad scientist Hojo had transplanted Jenova cells into. A being made to merge with Sephiroth for his resurrection. But as a failure, he was an inferior clone that wasn't even given a number.
He was thrown out like trash in Midgar. Then he met Tifa. He met his "real" childhood friend, Tifa Lockhart."
I swear SE doesn't pay attention to their own material.
LOL it sort of ends that way at the end of Maiden who travels the planet.
Introducing Zack, real scene from Maiden who Travels the planet: (Sorry for these spoilers I'm on a roll now. LOL)
But she couldn't figure out the truth. Her thoughts just went in circles. Aerith delved into her memories again. Memories that showed Cloud's individuality. The way he walked. She remembered all his actions one by one...
Most of those thoughts merged into the Sea of Mako and awakened a character. The character recognized the image she recalled and "he" woke up.
"Aerith... Is that you?"
At first, Aerith couldn't remember whose voice it was because it was so sudden. Panicking, she turned round and saw a nostalgic face she hadn't seen for five years. He was her light taste of first love. He was also now a very dear friend who she hadn't seen ever since she heard nothing from him. He had the same character she saw in Cloud. Zack who had blue eyes that proofed he was in Soldier appeared before her. He had an image inferior to Aerith's solid image.
"Zack! Does that mean you're dead too?"
Although usually Aerith wasn't the one to ask obvious questions, it was the first thought that came to mind and she spoke out as if it was a reflex. Besides that, it was odd that such a seasoned and highly skilled Soldier would die. Even though she didn't know his whereabouts, she was sure that he was safe and living peacefully somewhere... She blamed herself for blindly believing in such a thing. This cruel reality was a strong shock for her.
""You too?"... Does that mean you're dead too, Aerith? Well, I was going to say the same thing anyway and then... How should I put this... Give my condolences?"
"You haven't changed one bit."
No matter what happened, Zack never lost his cheerfulness. As if saved by his cheerful personality, Aerith smiled weakly. Even though she knew that he was a member of Shinra's Soldier, it was that part of him that was charming to her.
"Lots of things happened. All terrible things. It all started when I was dispatched on a mission to the rural Nibelheim."
"Yes, do you know about it? That time, I was together with a very famous Soldier that was known as a hero. He suddenly went mad..."
"You mean Sephiroth, don't you?"
Aerith swallowed her breathe. She believed that there was a meaning to why Zack appeared. She had a feeling it was linked to something.
"That bastard really is famous. Or was it because you read about the huge Nibelheim massacre in the news?"
"You were there at the time, Zack? Then what about Cloud...?"
"Woah woah, hold it there! How do you know about Cloud too? And is he safe?!"
"You know Cloud too. There really is a Cloud, isn't there?"
The two of them quickly exchanged what they knew. And then Aerith knew. She knew that Cloud wasn't just a cloned doll made for Sephiroth. She also knew why she saw Zack in him now.
Zack also knew. He knew the current state his close friend was in now. The friend who got involved together with him in the incident as they got hunted down by the Shinra. He also knew that Sephiroth was going to be resurrected and become a threat not just to Nibelheim but to everything on the Planet.
More quotes: ^^
Aerith: You did it, Tifa. Thank you... I'm a little jealous of you but, do take care of Cloud and the upper world."
Tifa embraced Cloud tightly as he returned to his senses. Aerith watched as both of them returned to the surface while smiling like an affectionate mother.
It was a dazzling sight for Zack.
"Man, you know Aerith. Out of all the girls I've gotten along with, you truly are the best. After that mission, we could have stayed the way we were and might have been able to continue to go out with each other after I returned home. I hate Sephiroth. And I hate Shinra who's been hiding all the stuff they've been doing."
"Someone who's gotten along with so many girls can never become a lover."
"How mean. I'm nice to everyone."
"And that's your bad point. You're not simplistic and awkward like Cloud."
"Is that what you liked, Aerith?"
"Who knows. Things might have changed after five years."
Zack put on sad face as if he was sulking but then smiled carefree. It was the unchanged smile that Aerith knew from when they were young. When she was seventeen, it was what attracted her to him.
Okay I'm done. XD.
White, black? What are you talking about? LOL. Okay, well I can't wait to hear what you think of the novels whenever you finish reading them. YEA! I love spoilers so much, I spoil my own spoilers.
Mc? Not good with slang words. Sorry! But okay. Actually she stopped waiting for her 'dead' lover and figured Zack moved on with another woman, since he was a ladies man. She even told Cloud they weren't serious. SE set Aerith and Zack up and made it seem it was very serious than it actually was. It was all puppy love between Aerith and Zack. Aerith didn't know Zack died in the first place, I still like the ending to Crisis core though.
Thank you for seeing Aerith as the main heroine of FF7, and not Tifa. IDK where people get that notion from.
That is wishful thinking on the fans who support those couples. Tifa was never Cloud's childhood friend, SE says they were, when in the first place, they made it in the very beginning that Cloud and Tifa were never childhood friends. Why can't Cloti and Zerith fans get that??? WHY? It drives me crazy!!! (runs out the window, glass surrounding me as I fall. I hijack a black limo and rob a bank with Roger Smith from American Dad.) LOL. They were acquaintances then when they got older, they actually became friends.
Aerith did want Tifa to take care of Cloud knowing she can't be with him. The man she loves for who he is and not because he is similar to Zack. These are facts.
I totally agree!!! ^^ Yeah he is, and his heart is still for Aerith, she haunts him because she loves him still. It would be so cool if Aerith possessed Tifa just to say, 'Hi' to Cloud, but he can still hear her and I guess see her spirit without Aeris possessing anyone. Creepy huh? LMAO. Zack will find another lover, I just want him to be revived. Damn it, him and Aerith both.
I'd say he should hook up with Cissnei, she seemed to have a crush on him, but is playing hard to get with Zack. That's so cute! I think she turned down a date offer from him in Crisis Core. LOL.
I'd say its to make Cloud Jealous! Or its bittersweet, since they are separated again. LOL.
Aeris: You see everything is okay again. (turns around, while Zack waves) ...... "Okay Zack let's go make out somewhere.
Cloud: AERITH! NO! (runs towards her)
Zack: Okay! Wait, you're just using me aren't you?
Aerith: Yeah. (smiles)
Cloud: Aerith! (emo tears)
Tifa: Damn it Cloud! I'm right here choose me!
Cloud: (bangs fists on the floor, bawling like a baby.) Aeriiiiiiith!
Zack: (sweat drops) Geez cloud, pull yourself together.
Yeah same here. LOL.
No, right? Aerith still makes the greatest story contributors, since the key of the game and the whole story point is about her, and Sephiroth.
Really??? Cool, I have not heard of either Case of White and Case of Black! I must check them out. Ohh now I get it. LOL.
I see makes sense. Poor Aeris. XD I love naming her with both names, IDK which name I like the best! IKR! Stupid Cloti fans thinking Tifa is the main Heroine. IKR they are seriously stupid! Aeris sacrificed herself to save everyone! Tifa sat back and just watched from the side lines. I did not know this and have forgotten where I learned this from, but originally Sephiroth and Aerith were supposed to fall for each other in CC. Looking at it that way, I think it would be weird, but sort of a cool twist.
I do now, damn it I want to know more about Aeris's mother, it would be so cool. ^^ Her story reminds me of Atlantis. I know I'm being random. I do that sometimes. And tifa becomes her love rival for Cloud, MUHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
IKR, they take things too literally! UGH. Cloti fans don't think about CLOUD'S feelings! Yet they claim that they do. In their stories, I've grudgingly read, and somewhat out of curiousy on how they use Cloud: They make Cloud hate Aerith, or just quickly move on in their own interpretation and then Tifa and Cloud get married. Or they use Aerith and make her love Zack after she dies, and after she has a sweet moment with Cloud. WTF? Not cool!
(Don't cry!!! )
Cloud isn't going to get with Tifa just like that, since he doesn't have a crush on her anymore. He cares for her only under friendship terms. Another bad point, they love to rant about it is Cloud and Tifa are 'parents' and Marlene and Denzel are their 'children' making it seem like a big happy family. Tifa keeps mentioning them as a family in the Case of Tifa story. I think she just meant a family of friends, not like that. Cloud is a child himself, and not a father figure, because he is still messed up in the head thanks to Jenova. His emotions are unstable, and is deeply depressed, he runs off almost everyday delivering errands, and going back to Aerith's church just to be with her and not Tifa. I loved the part when Tifa asks him in her story: "Do you love me?" When Cloud is groggily waking up, from sleep. She quickly asks, when he doesn't respond, "Do you love Marlene and Denzel." He answers yes, in a heartbeat and nothing to her confession. HA! (sets off fireworks)
ROFL! Thanks. ^^ I love to make comic skits, and just to make people laugh in general. Debating is another thing I love to do, because I have a voice! I want to throw my ideas out there, yet I'm arrogant because I want people to believe in my views only. But many people are like that. XD. OMG please watch me and be my cool new deviantart friend. ^^
I love all of your points and reasons why Aerith is perfect for Cloud and Tifa.
Roger Smith ((American Dad) (Cloud Strife)
Random Girl (Tifa Lockhart)
I hope you love this video, I love American Dad, but first I loved Family Guy then it switched.
it's just that how they say it and how they accept it which make things different.
Basically, the story resolves around this three (okay, count Sephiroth in and make it four. LOL )
and then Tif got depressed with Cloud's attitude, while Cloud is lost in his own thoughts/guilt/regret.